Review: Google’s GMail for Your Domain
by Devanshu Mehta
Google recently started offering GMail-like hosted email service for universities and beta-testing private domains. As soon as the “Google announced the beta”:http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/big-mail-on-campus.html of the service, I signed up my “Star Wars website GalaxyFarAway.com”:http://www.galaxyfaraway.com/gfa/ for “hosted GMail”:https://www.google.com/hosted.
Recently, I got an email that my site was accepted for the beta. I have been using it for a few days now and must say I am impressed.
Features
A lot of people seem to be wondering why you would want GMail to host your email if you already have a web host. Well, let me list the features that, in sum total, make it a worthwhile experience:
- 25 Free Email Addresses:
The current incarnation of GMail hosted allows the creation of 25 email accounts,each with 2 GB of storage for emails. The interface suggests that there will be a paid version with more features in the future. UPDATE: More or less than 25 may be given; read more in update at the bottom of the article. - GMail Bells and Whistles: Every feature that GMail has, is included in this service as well. This includes keyboard shortcuts, filters, search, labels, contacts. The whole thing.
- Chat: I am already falling in love with GMail’s chat-in-browser feature; it is a boon to people behind firewalls, people on alien computers and people for platform independence everywhere. I love the fact that I get it for galaxyfaraway.com users as well.
- Ease of Administration: The clean, simplified administration is perfect for people of all levels of expertise. I can imagine even my parents managing this- as always, with Google, less is more.
- Spam Blocking: I get a lot of spam on my main galaxyfaraway.com email address. This feature is really necessary and, for those of you already using GMail, you know it works.
Setup
The key to this service- like every other successful Google service- is its simplicity. On the first link you are provided, you select an ‘admin’ email address, a password and you are pretty much set to go. You will have to set up your DNS, but most likely, have to do only once. This provides you with the MX file entries you will have to provide to your host or ISP so that your email points to Google’s servers.
The main control area is the Google Hosted Dashboard. This allows you access to do the following:
- Users: List the email users you have created, when they last signed in and the % of their quota (2GB) that they are using. From here, you can go on to edit any of the user accounts you choose
- Create User: This allows you to create a email user with either a temporary password or one you specify. Each user can also have a ‘Nickname’ which is a second email address that points to the first one. For example, I could have admin[at]galaxyfaraway.com point to main[at]galaxyfaraway.com, but them both from the same interface. And since GMail already allows changing the ‘From’ address of your email on a per email basis, this becomes a lot more powerful.
- Email Lists: You can also create email lists meant for different subsets of your users. This could be a simple way to create staff or administration email lists for the people in your organization.
- Domain Settings: These settings allow simple configuration and customization of your domain email. You can specify a color scheme for the main page, a logo that would appear in place of the GMail logo in the upper-left corner and whether you want to enable Chat or not.
- Advanced Tools: At the moment, the only advanced tool is one that allows you to upload a CSV file with usernames, first name, last name and password to allow bulk creation of accounts. This is a nice feature, but one that I did not have to use.
Thoughts
Overall, I am quite happy with the service. I was already very comfortable using GMail for my personal email, so this was more than just an experiment- it is something I look forward to.
- SPAM: Since I receive a lot of spam on this email address, that was one major concern of mine. GMail’s spam filter has proven to be 100% effective so far. No worries.
- Chat: I am already falling in love with GMail’s chat-in-browser feature- it is a boon for people behind firewalls, people on alien computers and people for platform independence everywhere. I love that it is also available for people with galaxyfaraway.com email addresses.
- Privacy and Confidentiality: This could be a legitimate concern for many people. The thing to remember though is that our entire internet experience is based on trust- of ISPs, web sites and, in some cases, of other users. The only question is- how much trust do you want to place in one company? Considering that my email was already served by one company that I knew less about than I do about Google AND I already use GMail for my other email accounts, this is not an issue for me… for now.
- Google’s Future Hosting Services: Now I am in speculation territory. I predict that Google will start offering a lot more hosting services for other web sites in the near future. I base this entirely on the design of the Dashboard. My reason is:
The mail is hosted at http://mail.google.com/hosted but the dashboard is hosted at http://www.google.com/hosted. That means the Hosted Dashboard is meant for more than just mail.
It’s not much, but enough to base a theory on. I believe we can expect hosted web services of many kinds from Google in the not-too-distant future.
Overall, I think the 25 free accounts (read update below) are a great service for small companies, home businesses and personal web sites like mine. Also, all you need is a domain registration and you can have your own email address managed by GMail. With people already used to GMail and GTalk, the transition is much smoother than any other ISP or web host. That’s all I have for now! Will add more if the service changes- for better or worse.
UPDATE: “Slashdotted”:http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/28/2110207 , killed and maimed. For the second time in its short history, this web site faced the brutal onslaught of the Slashdot effect. In any case, here are a few updates about the GMail for your domain service:
- The number of accounts you are given for free is variable. It depends on what you ask for when you sign up. I sort of suspected this, but the comments on Slashdot confirmed it.
- You can “contact Google”:https://www.google.com/support/hosted/bin/request.py to inform them about bug reports, feature requests or to request additional user accounts. Very cool!
UPDATE #2: Today I also verified that GMail for Your Domain also works fine with Google’s GMail Notifier software. Just enter your email address as the user name. Also, you can run two GMail Notifier’s concurrently (at least on the Mac), so you can have each check a different address (e.g. @galaxyfaraway.com and @gmail.com).
About 14000 people read this article on this site alone- that is not including the mirrors at “galaxyfaraway.com”:http://www.galaxyfaraway.com, mirrordot or Coral Cache. The site died all morning after being slashdotted, but has been doing fine since it recovered.
I think the number of accounts you get is related to what you filled out in the beta application… I got a 100 account beta for my domain.
Are they allowing beta-users to send out invites (like they did with the original gmail beta test) to other users? If so, is there any chance I could snag one? =) aplocher [at] gmail.com. Thanks.
One feature that would be great in the long run is authentication redirection, so that authentication can use an organisation’s existing directory service (e.g. Active Directory).
Gmail For Your Domain…
Hosted Gmail, or “Gmail for your domain”, is sweet. It provides the ability to use the Gmail interface with your domains email. So, I go to my hosted Gmail and I can send/receive email at the longren.org domain.
I had to change my MX rec…
There are no invites. Only 1 domain is currently supported. And yes, number of accounts you get is releated to what you entered on the application. I entered 200 and I got 200.
Thanks everyone for the info on the number of email accounts- I’ve updated the article to reflect that. Again- the number of email user accounts given depends on what you ask for when you fill out the beta tester request. Beware of what you wish for…
Quick question for you guys.. What happens after the beta is over? I asked the Google guys this when I got my email that I’d been accepted for the beta, but I never got an answer. I did not want to have to migrate my users back if the cost was prohibitive after the beta was over. Do any of you guys know what the terms will be like after the beta is over?
Color me impressed. I just signed up one of my domains. I ended up getting 25 accounts (more than enough for now), and this thing kicks ass. I used to use Exchange Server 2000 for this domain and was getting ready to install Exchange Server 2003, but if this works out, I may end up just skipping on that. Very easy to set up. In fact, I run my own primary DNS. I just changed my MX records and within an hour I was receiving and sending emails from the GMail interface.
I think- though I am not sure- there will still be a free option. The paid option might be a “value-added” one. I thought I had read something to that effect, but I cannot find it now so I may have been imagining it.
Devan, it wasn’t my post you were reading was it? I was doing some hardcore speculation of my own. 🙂
I was given 50 emails for my little community-of-friends site.
Devan, Do you still get the on behalf of problem whereby emails received in some email programs (inc. Outlook) show up as “example@gmail.com on behalf of example@yourdomain.com” when you use your own domain name in your email address rather than your gmail address.
Does the Gmail for your domain support POP3? Can I download the email to my outlook or is it web-based access only?
No IMAP. Important for business.
@Tim Andrews, I have not had that trouble yet. And I am guessing that I will not have it either, since my “GMail for My Domain” does now know any @gmail.com address of mine. I will investigate a bit more, but another point against it being the case is that I checked the header of an email sent from @mydomain and there is no mention of any @gmail address.
On a side note, GMail for your domain works with Google’s GMail Notifier software.
Very cool, I applied for the beta test and within 24 hours I was approved =). The end-user interface is almost 100% identical to the normal gmail interface (except for the ability to change the logo it seems). The only major difference is the admin dashboard which is where you can add/remove/edit accounts and change some other options.
“The mail is hosted at http://mail.google.com/hosted but the dashboard is hosted at http://www.google.com/hosted. That means the Hosted Dashboard is meant for more than just mail.”
As far as I can tell, all google domains are treated the same – the gmail dashboard is probably meant to be at mail.google.com/hosted, but because of their setup, you can access it at google.com/hosted (or googleearth.com/hosted, for example. You can see an example of this functionality by going to http://www.froogle.com/maps?ll=53,-2&spn=6,14).
Other than that, nice review, and thanks for the info 🙂
@barry, it’s POP + web based, just like regular GMail.
I have tried applying for the beta 4 times over the last 4 or 5 weeks for my domain aj-hackett.com but never been approved. Any suggestions for what might be the winning formula to get them to say yes to me?
You really have a cool review… going there… was a great read, thanks very much!
Very nice review dude!
I’ll definitely make a mention to post a reference on my blog later.
Very helpful site. Some more comment on MX setup would be helpful for the less informed of us.
Looking at using this but a little worried about adjusting a MX record. I have a domain with Freeparking.co.uk currently using forwarding via email alias to my ISP email accounts. If I enter the names of the google servers in my MX record do I have to also enter an A record with the IP address.? [Current record seems to have mail.mydomain.org.uk and mail2.mydomain.org.uk in MX section and then addition A records resolving the 2 names to IP address – this is how all set up by Freeparking]
I have option in DNS Zone control to change the IP address of mailserver used (entry does not seem to appear in DNS record) and the entry in the MX record alhtough they seem to ahev “subdomains” that I do not have e.g. mail and mail2
many thanks.
Paul
@Paul, you should only need to modify your MX record; however, this will depend entirely on how your host (freeparking.co.uk) handles things. Star out at Google’s Help page for the MX records and check with freeparking.co.uk for more info. These generic instructions should work for you.
Many thnaks for links
How to configure Pop3 for Custom Domain, or Gmail for you Domain, I tried the faq, it just says, it is slightly different, but no details were there. Any help would be appreciated.
It is the same as regular GMail (http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287) but you use your entire email address (instead of @gmail.com) as your user name.
I have this service and I tried the google notifier. It doesn’t work!
I filled the hosted gmail form two days ago and today I got my beta approval. It’s great, although my hosting provider only allowed me to have one MX record. Works fine so far.
I only asked for 10 e-mail accounts (afraid that if I enter 200 I might get delayed too much). I got 25. Enough for my needs, although I plan to fill the request form and ask for a 100 total, so I don’t fall in short soon.
Great service, lovely SPAM filter, POP3 access works great !!
Ads are unobtrusive, the best thing of all is that outbound email does not have any advertising..
Fast interface. Good for google 🙂
BTW, I haven’t been able to use gmail notifier for my gmail hosted account. It doesn’t accept my login info, despite entering it correctly.
What could be wrong? 😦
thanks
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I applied for 2500 email accounts and got 5000.
It works with google talk, but not with gmail notifier
Does anyone know whether gmail for my domain supports a catch-all address for a domain?
No, it doesn’t. But it supports something called an alias.
Hi There, in fact a catch-all address is supported! Just check under domain settings.
I’m not able to get notifier or google talk to work with my custom gmail domain, however I can get it to work with my gmail account. any solutions to this?
All my mail works fine, EXCEPT, and this is probably something to do with my webhost, LunarPages, I have two separate domains, let’s call them domain1.com and domain2.com.
Domain1.com is setup to use gmail for domains MX records.
Domain2.com uses the webhost’s MX records (using Horde).
I cannot send mail from domain2.com to my domain1.com, but I can send from domain1.com to domain2.com.
Very weird, I’m thinking it might have something to do with them being hosted on the same server, idk.
Any ideas?
BTW – here’s a cool MX lookup tool you may find handy:
http://www.mxtoolbox.com
and while you’ll killing time, check out http://spreadsheets.google.com , it’s very coolio!!
dear devanshu, i write like this for setting pop3 :
mydomain : abc.com
pop3 : pop.gmail.com
user : daryl@abc.com
port number (pop3) : 995 .
is it correct ? would you mind telling how to set POP3 detail in microsoft outlook for “gmail for you domain” ?
thank you
I just want to inform that my email already works. That’s right setting. Thanks
Anoyone know of a free mail notifier that works with Google Hosted accounts? Can’t seem to find one that manages ssl over pop3.
Thanks
@Steve:
I use the firefox extension Gmail Manager.
http://www.longfocus.com/firefox/gmanager/
It works for the hosted accounts
Since you have not posted anymore updates concerning the GMail notifier not working with hosted domains, I wonder how you managed to do it. I tried it with my full email, but it is not recognized.
Cheers
“Anoyone know of a free mail notifier that works with Google Hosted accounts?”
I use the Trillian mail Pop3/IMAP notifier plugin to keep tabs on my Gmail for Your Domain account. Trillian is a chat client which comes in freeware and shareare versions, supporting various IM protocols and has various free plugins available.
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I got my GMAIL for my domain, and all is great, BUT.
I cannot get it to work on my http://www.google.com/ig..personalized Google hmoe page. When I try to sign in, it says I have either wrong username or passowrd, or both, etc.
Any ideas on if this works?
Many thanks,
Christopher
@Christopher
I think u may be signing in with only the username(i.e. xyz from xyz@yourdomainname.com). You have to sign in with “xyz@yourdomainname.com” as the username.
Good info. But a step by step guide will be more helpful.
1) What are the name servers to point for my mail to work.
(ie: mail.gmail.com? pop3.gmail.com? What do I use for incoming and smtp?)
2) What url do I go to or where do I click to setup a domain or email address after i have pointed my domain to the proper gmail mail servers?
3) Can I use outlook as a pop3 client? Will gmail serve my mail via pop3 for free? (I think that is my main question here.)
4) Thank you for a possibly numbered response to these questions. I think that will assist everyone else as well. Ciao!
The answers are the same as they would be for a regular gmail.com email; and most answers are here: https://mail.google.com/support/?ctx=%67mail&hl=en
1) Here’s some POP help
2) All the info you need to get set up is here: https://www.google.com/a/
3) You can use any pop client. Outlook included.
4) Done!
Hi there,
Say that I
(i) have the domain “domain.com”,
(ii) have set it (through the site where I bought it) to forward “mail@domain.com” to some gmail, “mail@gmail.com”
(iii) use the gmail option to “Use Gmail to send from your other email addresses” with mail@domain.com
Would gmail hosted give any extra advantages from a single user perspective? I do have several email adresses set up and use them for somewhat different purposes ( mail1@domain.com , mail2@domain.com and so on). Would the only difference be that I could now create and manage such adresses within gmail rather than at the site where I bought the domain?